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	<title>Comments on: ABCDs for today:  About Blitzkrieg, COIN, and Diplomacy</title>
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	<description>A discussion of geopolitics, broadly defined, from an American's perspective.</description>
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		<title>By: Pete Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oldskeptic, you're right, and I wish Richardson were still around to discuss these points with us. He never claimed to have all the answers, nor do I. If I've read him correctly, he was saying that H. sapiens has an innate level of violence and that society has a role in determining whether this violence shows up as suicide, murder, mass murder, or organized killings with the encouragement of the State. 
  Richardson collected data on wars and eventually used his database to study questions like:
1) Do two countries speaking the same language have a higher or lower probability of going to war that two countries speaking different languages?
2) Same question, but effect of different religions. 
  I can't resist quoting his biographer's description of what Richardson did (all by hand, this was before computers and computer graphics!):
   "To overcome the complexities of the real world, Richardson considered an idealized geography in which the world's population is divided into hexagonal cells of a million people, each speaking the same language. From this model he calculatede a probability that 'a pair of belligerent cells, selected at random, would have the same mother tongue on two different assumptions: (a) that wars could occur only between adjacent cells (b) that wars could occur between two cells anywhere in the world. The resulting estimates were compared with the  number of wars that had actually occurred between various language groups.'"
  Conclusions: (remember his database was 1500-1931)
1) There were fewer wars in which both sides spoke Chinese than would have been expected from the population speaking Chinese
2) There were more wars in which the opposing sides both spoke Spanish than would have been expected from the number of Spanish speakers in the world. 
3) Adherents of Chinese religions were involved in less wars than expected
4) There were more wars between Christians and Moslems than would be expected from their populations. 
 5)"There was also a strong suggestion, not however fully substantiated by the statistics, that Christianity incited wars between its adherents while Islam prevented wars between its adherents." 
   East Timor. Mixture of Christians and Muslims. Mixture of languages. Very poor. I would bet that Richardson would have expected war very likely there. 
  As for Richardson's point 5, I suspect (but don't have his database in front of me) that his database, despite his best efforts to be complete, under-estimated the number and severity of religious wars between Shia and Shi'ites, and other branches of Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oldskeptic, you&#8217;re right, and I wish Richardson were still around to discuss these points with us. He never claimed to have all the answers, nor do I. If I&#8217;ve read him correctly, he was saying that H. sapiens has an innate level of violence and that society has a role in determining whether this violence shows up as suicide, murder, mass murder, or organized killings with the encouragement of the State.<br />
  Richardson collected data on wars and eventually used his database to study questions like:<br />
1) Do two countries speaking the same language have a higher or lower probability of going to war that two countries speaking different languages?<br />
2) Same question, but effect of different religions.<br />
  I can&#8217;t resist quoting his biographer&#8217;s description of what Richardson did (all by hand, this was before computers and computer graphics!):<br />
   &#8220;To overcome the complexities of the real world, Richardson considered an idealized geography in which the world&#8217;s population is divided into hexagonal cells of a million people, each speaking the same language. From this model he calculatede a probability that &#8216;a pair of belligerent cells, selected at random, would have the same mother tongue on two different assumptions: (a) that wars could occur only between adjacent cells (b) that wars could occur between two cells anywhere in the world. The resulting estimates were compared with the  number of wars that had actually occurred between various language groups.&#8217;&#8221;<br />
  Conclusions: (remember his database was 1500-1931)<br />
1) There were fewer wars in which both sides spoke Chinese than would have been expected from the population speaking Chinese<br />
2) There were more wars in which the opposing sides both spoke Spanish than would have been expected from the number of Spanish speakers in the world.<br />
3) Adherents of Chinese religions were involved in less wars than expected<br />
4) There were more wars between Christians and Moslems than would be expected from their populations.<br />
 5)&#8221;There was also a strong suggestion, not however fully substantiated by the statistics, that Christianity incited wars between its adherents while Islam prevented wars between its adherents.&#8221;<br />
   East Timor. Mixture of Christians and Muslims. Mixture of languages. Very poor. I would bet that Richardson would have expected war very likely there.<br />
  As for Richardson&#8217;s point 5, I suspect (but don&#8217;t have his database in front of me) that his database, despite his best efforts to be complete, under-estimated the number and severity of religious wars between Shia and Shi&#8217;ites, and other branches of Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabius Maximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All great posts.  The process can work in reverse -- with internal violence levels climbing steadily from low levels.  And not just in war-torn or third world nations.  Look at the UK. There are some indications this might also be happening elsewhere in western europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All great posts.  The process can work in reverse &#8212; with internal violence levels climbing steadily from low levels.  And not just in war-torn or third world nations.  Look at the UK. There are some indications this might also be happening elsewhere in western europe.</p>
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		<title>By: oldskeptic</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, but he also noted that different societies and beliefs did have an impact (he used the example of Confuciusian China), with some (e.g. European) having very high levels of State based violence and others high levels of personal and inter-societal violence. A glimpse at the violent crime statistics around the world show astonishing differences, even between nations that are quite comparible (by wealth, culture, etc).

Change is also a factor, we are all to aware of collapsing societies where violence climbs dramatically (e.g Iraq), but there are also downturns. For example, the EU has to stand out as an unqualified success. A continent that had always been at war for centuries now enjoys the longest period of peace it probably has ever has had.

We need more research into how societies (getting away from the State concept with all the conceptual traps that entails):
(1) Can contuinue to function effectively, ie not collapse.
(2) How to re-build (restart?) societies that have collapsed in the recent past.
(3) How to build societies from the ground up where there has never been any effective functioning.

Bit too much focus on destroying and not nearly enough on research into (re) building.

Ones to watch for, from an academic point of view on the elements of success and failure:
- Iraq, after the US leaves, how does it re-build. Will it ever get back to the reasonably healthy and peacefull multi-cultural mix it had before the invasion?
- East Timor. This never had been a nation (as we know it) and is trying to build itself up from nothing with a totally poverty stricken, traumatised people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, but he also noted that different societies and beliefs did have an impact (he used the example of Confuciusian China), with some (e.g. European) having very high levels of State based violence and others high levels of personal and inter-societal violence. A glimpse at the violent crime statistics around the world show astonishing differences, even between nations that are quite comparible (by wealth, culture, etc).</p>
<p>Change is also a factor, we are all to aware of collapsing societies where violence climbs dramatically (e.g Iraq), but there are also downturns. For example, the EU has to stand out as an unqualified success. A continent that had always been at war for centuries now enjoys the longest period of peace it probably has ever has had.</p>
<p>We need more research into how societies (getting away from the State concept with all the conceptual traps that entails):<br />
(1) Can contuinue to function effectively, ie not collapse.<br />
(2) How to re-build (restart?) societies that have collapsed in the recent past.<br />
(3) How to build societies from the ground up where there has never been any effective functioning.</p>
<p>Bit too much focus on destroying and not nearly enough on research into (re) building.</p>
<p>Ones to watch for, from an academic point of view on the elements of success and failure:<br />
- Iraq, after the US leaves, how does it re-build. Will it ever get back to the reasonably healthy and peacefull multi-cultural mix it had before the invasion?<br />
- East Timor. This never had been a nation (as we know it) and is trying to build itself up from nothing with a totally poverty stricken, traumatised people.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Fry_Richardson" rel="nofollow"&gt;Lewis Fry Richardson&lt;/a&gt;:   Easily accessible papers are in "The World of Mathematics" (J. Newman, ed, still in print I think) but a popular summary of a small fraction of his ideas is in Carl Sagan's Cosmos (Random House, 1980).  Paraphrasing Sagan's summary, Richardson started by defining a "deadly quarrel" as one resulting in the death of one or more people. He collected data on a large number of murders, gang killings, mob violence, and wars of increasing size and decided to classify them by  defining M as the log of the number people killed (around 1000, M=3; around 1 million, M=6, for a single murder M=0).  He then looked at his data. The higher M, the fewer deadly quarrels of that magnitude. Extapolate downward to M=0 and you have a pretty good measure of the murder rate.

Looking at his data for wars of M=4, and plotting the number of wars breaking out in a given year for the period 1820-1929, he found excellent agreement with a Poisson distribution for 110 wars in 110 years. Deadly quarrels of smaller and larger sizes over different time periods also fit the Poisson distribution. 

His conclusions: from murder to war there is a continuum of violence. The outbreak of wars of a given size is a random process similar to radioactive decay-- you can't tell when a given unstable atom will decay, but given a large enough sample and an empirically measured half-life, the number of decays for a sample of known size can be predicted. 

There's a lot more there, but that's a start. Implications for 4GW-- not qualified to decide, but agree and disagree with Joshua Faust at the same time. Things are changing beyond recognition, but, sadly, the nature of the human species toward violence has not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Fry_Richardson" rel="nofollow">Lewis Fry Richardson</a>:   Easily accessible papers are in &#8220;The World of Mathematics&#8221; (J. Newman, ed, still in print I think) but a popular summary of a small fraction of his ideas is in Carl Sagan&#8217;s Cosmos (Random House, 1980).  Paraphrasing Sagan&#8217;s summary, Richardson started by defining a &#8220;deadly quarrel&#8221; as one resulting in the death of one or more people. He collected data on a large number of murders, gang killings, mob violence, and wars of increasing size and decided to classify them by  defining M as the log of the number people killed (around 1000, M=3; around 1 million, M=6, for a single murder M=0).  He then looked at his data. The higher M, the fewer deadly quarrels of that magnitude. Extapolate downward to M=0 and you have a pretty good measure of the murder rate.</p>
<p>Looking at his data for wars of M=4, and plotting the number of wars breaking out in a given year for the period 1820-1929, he found excellent agreement with a Poisson distribution for 110 wars in 110 years. Deadly quarrels of smaller and larger sizes over different time periods also fit the Poisson distribution. </p>
<p>His conclusions: from murder to war there is a continuum of violence. The outbreak of wars of a given size is a random process similar to radioactive decay&#8211; you can&#8217;t tell when a given unstable atom will decay, but given a large enough sample and an empirically measured half-life, the number of decays for a sample of known size can be predicted. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot more there, but that&#8217;s a start. Implications for 4GW&#8211; not qualified to decide, but agree and disagree with Joshua Faust at the same time. Things are changing beyond recognition, but, sadly, the nature of the human species toward violence has not.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
		<link>http://fabiusmaximus.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/tdaxp-abcd/#comment-1042</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the broader conceptual space Fabius is working in, namely that old frameworks are dying but we haven't yet learned the new ones, is sort of the missing story under all of this. Yes it matters that we're stuck fighting a war we can't quite define, but it matters much more how badly desynchronized our institutions have become.

Permit the luxury of borrowing liberally from Alvin Toffler: as we move forward in history, the scales are changing at dramatically different paces. Communication is instantaneous, mass effects are instantaneous, and so on. To borrow too much jargon, we are moving into the &lt;a href="http://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1033/MR1033.chap2.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;noosphere&lt;/a&gt;, almost beyond the information society.

Yet institutionally, we are stuck in the Industrial Age, with large immovable bureaucracies using large immovable groups to perform large tasks. But the world isn't large, at least in terms of conflict -- the post-Cold War era has been defined by micro-conflicts. Nearly 20 years on, we see nothing but small wars, yet not a single institution of the government (hell, or of society) has changed to keep pace.

These are half-formed thoughts. But it seems, given the otherwise philosophical bent of this site, that to discuss things only in terms of 4GW is limiting. The real, underlying process is much bigger, and much more dire.
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&lt;em&gt;Fabius Maximus replies:  A brilliant insight, as usual.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the broader conceptual space Fabius is working in, namely that old frameworks are dying but we haven&#8217;t yet learned the new ones, is sort of the missing story under all of this. Yes it matters that we&#8217;re stuck fighting a war we can&#8217;t quite define, but it matters much more how badly desynchronized our institutions have become.</p>
<p>Permit the luxury of borrowing liberally from Alvin Toffler: as we move forward in history, the scales are changing at dramatically different paces. Communication is instantaneous, mass effects are instantaneous, and so on. To borrow too much jargon, we are moving into the <a href="http://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1033/MR1033.chap2.pdf" rel="nofollow">noosphere</a>, almost beyond the information society.</p>
<p>Yet institutionally, we are stuck in the Industrial Age, with large immovable bureaucracies using large immovable groups to perform large tasks. But the world isn&#8217;t large, at least in terms of conflict &#8212; the post-Cold War era has been defined by micro-conflicts. Nearly 20 years on, we see nothing but small wars, yet not a single institution of the government (hell, or of society) has changed to keep pace.</p>
<p>These are half-formed thoughts. But it seems, given the otherwise philosophical bent of this site, that to discuss things only in terms of 4GW is limiting. The real, underlying process is much bigger, and much more dire.<br />
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<em>Fabius Maximus replies:  A brilliant insight, as usual.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Kinder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan Kinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A typo above:  Lorenzo Scupoli's book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Warfare-Spiritual-Paradise-Lorenzo/dp/0913836524/ref=pd_bbs_4?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1203789674&#38;sr=8-4" rel="nofollow"&gt;Spiritual Combat&lt;/a&gt;, is a Roman Catholic classic.  Written in the Renaissance, Eastern Orthodox monks also embraced it, and, in the eastern tradition, modified it extensively.  The blurb for the Eastern version states:

&lt;i&gt;This spiritual classic was written by Lorenzo Scupoli, a sixteenth-century Venetian priest. Immensely popular in its own day, it was ranked by Francis de Sales with the Imitation of Christ. In the general rapport between Western and Eastern Christendom, it reached Nicodemus of the Holy Mountain, who first recognized its immense spiritual worth, and later, in the nineteenth century, Theophan the Recluse, both of whom edited and translated the work.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Rich in its references to the teachings of the saints and Fathers, Unseen Warfare combines the insights of West and East on that spiritual combat which is the road to perfection and the stripping away of all that militates against it. Staretz Theophan wrote in his foreword, "the arena, the field of battle, the site where the fight actually takes place is our own heart and all our inner man. The time of battle is our whole life." &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A typo above:  Lorenzo Scupoli&#8217;s book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Warfare-Spiritual-Paradise-Lorenzo/dp/0913836524/ref=pd_bbs_4?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1203789674&amp;sr=8-4" rel="nofollow">Spiritual Combat</a>, is a Roman Catholic classic.  Written in the Renaissance, Eastern Orthodox monks also embraced it, and, in the eastern tradition, modified it extensively.  The blurb for the Eastern version states:</p>
<p><i>This spiritual classic was written by Lorenzo Scupoli, a sixteenth-century Venetian priest. Immensely popular in its own day, it was ranked by Francis de Sales with the Imitation of Christ. In the general rapport between Western and Eastern Christendom, it reached Nicodemus of the Holy Mountain, who first recognized its immense spiritual worth, and later, in the nineteenth century, Theophan the Recluse, both of whom edited and translated the work.</i></p>
<p><i>Rich in its references to the teachings of the saints and Fathers, Unseen Warfare combines the insights of West and East on that spiritual combat which is the road to perfection and the stripping away of all that militates against it. Staretz Theophan wrote in his foreword, &#8220;the arena, the field of battle, the site where the fight actually takes place is our own heart and all our inner man. The time of battle is our whole life.&#8221; </i></p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Kinder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan Kinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other epochs have defined "warfare" quite broadly.  For example, one of the leading texts of the Renaissance was &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Combat-Battles-Attain-Peace/dp/1928832504/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1203789674&#38;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by Lorenzo Scupoli.  The Jesuit Order was founded upon military lines.

From this, we have a continuum that also takes us to Jesuits hidden in Elizabethan English country house cubbyholes, the Gunpowder Plot, the early Baroque style, and the Thirty Years War.

For those of you who want to avoid / denounce the theological implications of this, note that interpretations of "jihad" appear to resemble "Spiritual Combat"; that this combat may very well be a rehash of Manicheanism; that Plato, who in both the &lt;i&gt;Gorgias&lt;/i&gt; and the &lt;i&gt;Republic&lt;/i&gt; considers "might is right," in his &lt;i&gt;Phaedrus&lt;/i&gt; depicts a type of spiritual combat; and that the "commies" with their dialectic also believe something like this. (Sorry Fabius, but I had to work the "commies" in somehow.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other epochs have defined &#8220;warfare&#8221; quite broadly.  For example, one of the leading texts of the Renaissance was <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Combat-Battles-Attain-Peace/dp/1928832504/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1203789674&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow"></a> by Lorenzo Scupoli.  The Jesuit Order was founded upon military lines.</p>
<p>From this, we have a continuum that also takes us to Jesuits hidden in Elizabethan English country house cubbyholes, the Gunpowder Plot, the early Baroque style, and the Thirty Years War.</p>
<p>For those of you who want to avoid / denounce the theological implications of this, note that interpretations of &#8220;jihad&#8221; appear to resemble &#8220;Spiritual Combat&#8221;; that this combat may very well be a rehash of Manicheanism; that Plato, who in both the <i>Gorgias</i> and the <i>Republic</i> considers &#8220;might is right,&#8221; in his <i>Phaedrus</i> depicts a type of spiritual combat; and that the &#8220;commies&#8221; with their dialectic also believe something like this. (Sorry Fabius, but I had to work the &#8220;commies&#8221; in somehow.).</p>
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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabius, regarding you're replies

1. I take it I should read "it's just a commponplace observation" as meaning you have no evidence, nor any desire to collect it?

2. -ie is an English diminutive suffix, similar to the Latin -ulus or the Spanish -ito.  Alternatively, if you are deriving commie a different way, what way is it, and why?
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&lt;em&gt;Fabius Maximus replies:
1.  Quite right.
2.  "Commie" has been a commonplace term in the American language for several generations.  Whatever the derivation, it does not convey "smallness of the object named, encapsulation, intimacy, or endearment."  I suspect we -- you, I, everyone reading this -- all know the meaning of "commie."&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabius, regarding you&#8217;re replies</p>
<p>1. I take it I should read &#8220;it&#8217;s just a commponplace observation&#8221; as meaning you have no evidence, nor any desire to collect it?</p>
<p>2. -ie is an English diminutive suffix, similar to the Latin -ulus or the Spanish -ito.  Alternatively, if you are deriving commie a different way, what way is it, and why?<br />
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<em>Fabius Maximus replies:<br />
1.  Quite right.<br />
2.  &#8220;Commie&#8221; has been a commonplace term in the American language for several generations.  Whatever the derivation, it does not convey &#8220;smallness of the object named, encapsulation, intimacy, or endearment.&#8221;  I suspect we &#8212; you, I, everyone reading this &#8212; all know the meaning of &#8220;commie.&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: Pete Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is any of the work of Lewis Fry Richardson relevant to these discussions? (He's one of my heroes, a Quaker and pacifist, ambulance driver in WWI who hated war so much that he spent a lifetime studying it)
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&lt;em&gt;Fabius Maximus replies:  I doubt if most of us know who he is.  Please explain the relevance!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is any of the work of Lewis Fry Richardson relevant to these discussions? (He&#8217;s one of my heroes, a Quaker and pacifist, ambulance driver in WWI who hated war so much that he spent a lifetime studying it)<br />
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<em>Fabius Maximus replies:  I doubt if most of us know who he is.  Please explain the relevance!</em></p>
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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"since we wrecked our Foreign Services during the Cold War commie hunts"

1) Do you have evidence for this explanation especially in contrast to, say, the Church committee and "baddie" hunts?
2) Why the use of the diminutive?  Does it indicate that your statement should not be taken seriously, that you rhetorically deny Communists manhood (or womanhood?), or something else.
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&lt;em&gt;Fabius Maximus replies:
1.  It's just a commonplace observation.  With Bundy in 1961, the Natl Security Advisor is often as or even more prominent than the Sec State.  Insider accounts since consist of comlaints about the slow speed and low quality of State's work, and increasing reliance on the parallel NSC apparatus.
2.  I do not consider "commie" a diminutive form of "communist."&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;since we wrecked our Foreign Services during the Cold War commie hunts&#8221;</p>
<p>1) Do you have evidence for this explanation especially in contrast to, say, the Church committee and &#8220;baddie&#8221; hunts?<br />
2) Why the use of the diminutive?  Does it indicate that your statement should not be taken seriously, that you rhetorically deny Communists manhood (or womanhood?), or something else.<br />
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<em>Fabius Maximus replies:<br />
1.  It&#8217;s just a commonplace observation.  With Bundy in 1961, the Natl Security Advisor is often as or even more prominent than the Sec State.  Insider accounts since consist of comlaints about the slow speed and low quality of State&#8217;s work, and increasing reliance on the parallel NSC apparatus.<br />
2.  I do not consider &#8220;commie&#8221; a diminutive form of &#8220;communist.&#8221;</em></p>
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