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	<description>A discussion of geopolitics, broadly defined, from an American's perspective.</description>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hitchens</title>
		<link>http://fabiusmaximus.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/legacy-ashes/#comment-1230</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Hitchens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't read this book, but a couple of ex-colleagues still "in the business" were not terribly impressed.  

What I do take exception to is a statement like this:  "...the long and expensive futility of the Iraq War results from the long decay of our intelligence apparatus." 

Yes, intelligence analysis about Iraq was flawed, but I think there's ample documentation of a runaway circle of policymakers who neither wanted nor needed much good intelligence to support their decision to invade.  And Paul Pilar can bitch-slap anyone he pleases in the pages of Foreign Affairs, but the fact is that none of our vaunted mideast specialists in the IC said much to warn those policy hawks that removing the hard hand of Saddam Hussein might unleash long-dormant ethnic tensions.  And let's not even get into the issue of the nonexistent links between Saddam and al-Q, which the IC attempted (futiley) to dispel.  From top to bottom, this was a policy disaster.  Intelligence played its supporting role, dutifully, but we all know who was in the spotlight.
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&lt;em&gt;Fabius Maximus:  yes, there is more than enough blame for everybody in this multi-faceted wreck!  That is typical, fo course.  Consider the Titanic as the model of a systems failure.  Many things had to go wrong to produce such a complete disaster.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read this book, but a couple of ex-colleagues still &#8220;in the business&#8221; were not terribly impressed.  </p>
<p>What I do take exception to is a statement like this:  &#8220;&#8230;the long and expensive futility of the Iraq War results from the long decay of our intelligence apparatus.&#8221; </p>
<p>Yes, intelligence analysis about Iraq was flawed, but I think there&#8217;s ample documentation of a runaway circle of policymakers who neither wanted nor needed much good intelligence to support their decision to invade.  And Paul Pilar can bitch-slap anyone he pleases in the pages of Foreign Affairs, but the fact is that none of our vaunted mideast specialists in the IC said much to warn those policy hawks that removing the hard hand of Saddam Hussein might unleash long-dormant ethnic tensions.  And let&#8217;s not even get into the issue of the nonexistent links between Saddam and al-Q, which the IC attempted (futiley) to dispel.  From top to bottom, this was a policy disaster.  Intelligence played its supporting role, dutifully, but we all know who was in the spotlight.<br />
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<em>Fabius Maximus:  yes, there is more than enough blame for everybody in this multi-faceted wreck!  That is typical, fo course.  Consider the Titanic as the model of a systems failure.  Many things had to go wrong to produce such a complete disaster.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Fabius Maximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the Foreign Affairs review has an interesting flavor.  It is very funny.  The CIA-alumnus Professor makes some telling blows against Weiner's book. 

First he trots out the standard CIA defense - just like it was new: &lt;em&gt;"In the intelligence business, failures (and apparent contradictions) make headlines, while successes generally remain secret."&lt;/em&gt;  Every critic of the CIA for decades has rebutted this at length.  To trot out this old chestnut suggests that he is not serious, but only going through the motions.

&lt;em&gt;"Second, calling for intelligence reform serves psychological and political purposes that have nothing to do with the intelligence agencies' successes or failures."&lt;/em&gt;  Now that is a powerful defense, like "Yes I burgled his house, but his accusation of me seves psychological purposes..."

Even more profound:  &lt;em&gt;"Finally, intelligence failures are inevitable."  &lt;/em&gt;I think we all know that, Professor.  It is the CIA's batting average that worries us.

Among the nonsense in this review, one line pretty much says all we need to know of Prof Pillar's thinking:  &lt;em&gt;"However, this explanation overlooks the strong bias toward reform among managers inside the intelligence community. Like ambitious managers anywhere, they make their careers not by sitting on the status quo but by championing new initiatives and strategic redirections."&lt;/em&gt;  Yep, the US government apparatus has such a &lt;strong&gt;strong &lt;/strong&gt;bias toward reform!  Is he a fool, or does he just think we are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the Foreign Affairs review has an interesting flavor.  It is very funny.  The CIA-alumnus Professor makes some telling blows against Weiner&#8217;s book. </p>
<p>First he trots out the standard CIA defense - just like it was new: <em>&#8220;In the intelligence business, failures (and apparent contradictions) make headlines, while successes generally remain secret.&#8221;</em>  Every critic of the CIA for decades has rebutted this at length.  To trot out this old chestnut suggests that he is not serious, but only going through the motions.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Second, calling for intelligence reform serves psychological and political purposes that have nothing to do with the intelligence agencies&#8217; successes or failures.&#8221;</em>  Now that is a powerful defense, like &#8220;Yes I burgled his house, but his accusation of me seves psychological purposes&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Even more profound:  <em>&#8220;Finally, intelligence failures are inevitable.&#8221;  </em>I think we all know that, Professor.  It is the CIA&#8217;s batting average that worries us.</p>
<p>Among the nonsense in this review, one line pretty much says all we need to know of Prof Pillar&#8217;s thinking:  <em>&#8220;However, this explanation overlooks the strong bias toward reform among managers inside the intelligence community. Like ambitious managers anywhere, they make their careers not by sitting on the status quo but by championing new initiatives and strategic redirections.&#8221;</em>  Yep, the US government apparatus has such a <strong>strong </strong>bias toward reform!  Is he a fool, or does he just think we are?</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Foust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Foust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for flavor I would suggest reading former-CIA worker-cum-Georgetown professor Paul Pillar's complain against Weiner's pretty obvious bias &lt;em&gt;(the last in the list of reviews given above)&lt;/em&gt;.  That's not to say Weiner is automatically wrong and Pillar is automatically right - Pillar has very obvious reasons, despite his own critiques of the Agency (which did not sell as well), for defending his previous employer - but a balanced picture is appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for flavor I would suggest reading former-CIA worker-cum-Georgetown professor Paul Pillar&#8217;s complain against Weiner&#8217;s pretty obvious bias <em>(the last in the list of reviews given above)</em>.  That&#8217;s not to say Weiner is automatically wrong and Pillar is automatically right - Pillar has very obvious reasons, despite his own critiques of the Agency (which did not sell as well), for defending his previous employer - but a balanced picture is appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: themurr</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did the military manage to take over the CIA? The whole point when it was stood up was to have a counterweight to military intelligence, to give the president information not skewed in order to pump up threats to get more bombers, missiles and carriers.  If the book answers this question, I'll read it pronto, if not, it's already been added to the list.
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&lt;em&gt;Fabius Maximus replies:  the book does describe the long war (the real one, between the CIA and DoD).  Like the war between State and DOD, DoD won.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did the military manage to take over the CIA? The whole point when it was stood up was to have a counterweight to military intelligence, to give the president information not skewed in order to pump up threats to get more bombers, missiles and carriers.  If the book answers this question, I&#8217;ll read it pronto, if not, it&#8217;s already been added to the list.<br />
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<em>Fabius Maximus replies:  the book does describe the long war (the real one, between the CIA and DoD).  Like the war between State and DOD, DoD won.</em></p>
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		<title>By: OldSkeptic</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree, superb book, both in its breadth and depth, highly recommended, especially for those who want to understand the background and history that have led to this sorry state.</description>
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