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	<title>Comments on: 4GW:  A solution of the first kind - Robots!</title>
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	<description>A discussion of geopolitics, broadly defined, from an American's perspective.</description>
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		<title>By: João Carlos</title>
		<link>http://fabiusmaximus.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/robots/#comment-1814</link>
		<dc:creator>João Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if the Moore's Law start to apply to biothecnology, we will need fight the Singularity and the robot uprising together. They will ally against us.  I guess the 21th century will be a lot funny...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if the Moore&#8217;s Law start to apply to biothecnology, we will need fight the Singularity and the robot uprising together. They will ally against us.  I guess the 21th century will be a lot funny&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: purpleslog</title>
		<link>http://fabiusmaximus.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/robots/#comment-1812</link>
		<dc:creator>purpleslog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shrinkwrapped wrote a related post a while back:  "&lt;a href="http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2006/07/moores_law_coun.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Moore's Law &#38; Counter-Insurgency&lt;/a&gt;" (6 July 2006)

&lt;em&gt;"In essence, Moore's Law and its derivatives predict that any endeavor that is based on information processing will double in speed and halve in price in ~12-18 months.  This is true in computing, increasingly true in medicine, eventually will prove to  be true in bio-technology, and is already proving to be true in military affairs.  As soon as any endeavor becomes primarily about processing information, Moore's Law applies. Here is my best guess on how this can work on the battlefield; it involves Smart Birds, Smart Bats, and Smart Mosquitoes along with Smart Snakes, Smart Centipedes, and Smart Cockroaches."&lt;/em&gt;

He then lays out the scenario.
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&lt;em&gt;Fabius Maximus replies:  These straight-line extrapolations into the future are often wrong.  See this:  "&lt;a href="http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/24/what-will-life-be-like-in-the-year-2008/" rel="nofollow"&gt;What Will Life Be Like in the Year 2008?”,  &lt;/a&gt;Mechanix Illustrated (November 1968), in which the past 40's year progress in transporation tech was assumed to continue for another 40 years.&lt;/em&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;* Computing evolution might already be slowing.  &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;em&gt;* Evolution of medical tech seems to be accellerating (future generations might consider medicine as invented aprox 2000, before that were just witch doctors).  &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;em&gt;* There is little evidence that improved tech has improved our ability to fight 4GWs.  Perhaps the opposite is true.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shrinkwrapped wrote a related post a while back:  &#8220;<a href="http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2006/07/moores_law_coun.html" rel="nofollow">Moore&#8217;s Law &amp; Counter-Insurgency</a>&#8221; (6 July 2006)</p>
<p><em>&#8220;In essence, Moore&#8217;s Law and its derivatives predict that any endeavor that is based on information processing will double in speed and halve in price in ~12-18 months.  This is true in computing, increasingly true in medicine, eventually will prove to  be true in bio-technology, and is already proving to be true in military affairs.  As soon as any endeavor becomes primarily about processing information, Moore&#8217;s Law applies. Here is my best guess on how this can work on the battlefield; it involves Smart Birds, Smart Bats, and Smart Mosquitoes along with Smart Snakes, Smart Centipedes, and Smart Cockroaches.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>He then lays out the scenario.<br />
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<em>Fabius Maximus replies:  These straight-line extrapolations into the future are often wrong.  See this:  &#8220;<a href="http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/24/what-will-life-be-like-in-the-year-2008/" rel="nofollow">What Will Life Be Like in the Year 2008?”,  </a>Mechanix Illustrated (November 1968), in which the past 40&#8217;s year progress in transporation tech was assumed to continue for another 40 years.</em><br />
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<em>* Computing evolution might already be slowing.  </em><br />
<em>* Evolution of medical tech seems to be accellerating (future generations might consider medicine as invented aprox 2000, before that were just witch doctors).  </em><br />
<em>* There is little evidence that improved tech has improved our ability to fight 4GWs.  Perhaps the opposite is true.</em></p>
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		<title>By: João Carlos</title>
		<link>http://fabiusmaximus.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/robots/#comment-1810</link>
		<dc:creator>João Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some points:
1- humans are a lot more inteligent than robots, so humans will win, and if the military try to create robots that are more inteligent than humans... well, I think the singularity will be not at our side and can be better prepare for fight the robot uprising.
2- robots will occupy territory? If not, they will not win a 4GW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some points:<br />
1- humans are a lot more inteligent than robots, so humans will win, and if the military try to create robots that are more inteligent than humans&#8230; well, I think the singularity will be not at our side and can be better prepare for fight the robot uprising.<br />
2- robots will occupy territory? If not, they will not win a 4GW.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikyo</title>
		<link>http://fabiusmaximus.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/robots/#comment-1807</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 05:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Evil: "You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads! Now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that cannot be done. Ah, would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? Throw me a bone here! What do we have?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Evil: &#8220;You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin&#8217; laser beams attached to their heads! Now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that cannot be done. Ah, would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? Throw me a bone here! What do we have?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: judasnoose</title>
		<link>http://fabiusmaximus.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/robots/#comment-1799</link>
		<dc:creator>judasnoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also don't forget the robots are revolutionizing the commercial sector as well.  Not only are expensive robots the future of procurement, cheap robots might be the future of IEDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also don&#8217;t forget the robots are revolutionizing the commercial sector as well.  Not only are expensive robots the future of procurement, cheap robots might be the future of IEDs.</p>
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